Monday, July 12, 2010

Buyer Beware

After house-shopping for a couple of years, we lucked into finding this house for sale in our price range and with the extras that we had hoped to find, namely an acre of land in a smaller community but close enough to my sweetie's employment to be workable. However, we have paid a price for this affordable home, one that we knew to expect with buying a foreclosure.

The news is full of horror stories about trashed-out foreclosures and, indeed, we'd seen some houses like that on the local MLS. When we looked at this place, we were relieved to see that it appeared to have avoided the total destruction that many houses suffered. Over time, though, we've come to suspect that the situation was a little worse than we initially thought.

Dealing with the bank that owned the house was rather interesting. I'd rather have dealt with an individual seller, but by that point, we were pretty much out of options if we wanted to get a home and start the process of getting prepared for the future. When our offer was finally accepted, after a nerve-wracking bidding process against the other two potential buyers, the bank's contract stated that we were welcome to inspect the property and inform them of any deficiencies or needed repairs, but they would not do a damn thing about them. If we didn't like that, we were free to walk away from the purchase, taking our earnest money with us. In other words, "take it or leave it."

We did the inspection on our own and noted missing light fixtures, screens, screen doors, closet doors, and even the mailbox. There was a single towel bar in the entire two-bedroom house. We did not bring these deficiencies up with the bank because, heck, they weren't going to fix them anyway so why make the process take any longer?

We were surprised in the final walk-through to find the missing light fixtures had been replaced. There was a comment on the hook-up and inspection sheet from the electric company that they must be in place for the sale, so I guess the bank actually sprung for those. Of course, the front porch light fixture was a different style than the original, leaving a big patch that needs to be repainted, but that's simply cosmetic and we'll get to it eventually.

Once we moved in, though, we started taking note of some other odd things. Arizona has hard water and it leaves spots on bathroom fixtures, yet every single faucet fixture for the sinks and tub looked sparkly clean. They were all new; cheapest ones available but new. Hm, had the old owner perhaps removed all the faucets when he was kicked out for the foreclosure? The oven is not original to the house. It is obviously a scratch 'n dent model, and we now suspect that it, too, was installed after the bank took possession.

I worried initially about sabotage but my sweetie assured me that we would be able to see anything significant. In the last few days, though, we've stumbled across two things, minor but obviously intentional, that make me think we need to continue to be vigilant. This weekend, my sweetie had time to finally look into why the front phone jack was dead. After some time investigating, he found the wire coming into the house had been pulled out a bit, cut, and then pushed back into the hole. This could not have been accidental.

This morning, I decided it was high time I vacuumed the spider webs and dust out of the floor vents. I can't do a thorough job like the professionals who clean duct work, but at least there wouldn't be so much crud blowing up out of them every time the air conditioning came on. After I was done, I dumped the contents of the mini Shop Vac into the trash. I wasn't terribly surprised by the dirt, lint, fur, and pebbles; after all, this stuff is going to fall into floor vents occasionally. What did surprise me, though, were the half-dozen cigarette butts. Huh? How freakin' rude! I'm kind of grossed out now and wondering if the jerk shoved anything worse way back into the duct work.

I'm thrilled we did finally find an affordable place but I'd much rather be outside playing in the compost than cleaning up after the last tenant!

16 comments:

Robj98168 said...

LOL Not LOL'ing at you but LOL'ing with you. Cigarette butts in the vents? I am a reformed smoker,(3 months now) But in all my years I never managed to drop butts in the vents.

jennajon said...

Or....on the somewhat positive side, perhaps the last tenant hid a wonderful stash of money back in one of those ducts!

One can dream......

Kathryn Grace said...

Wow. Not being in the market for a home, I've paid little attention to the logistics of buying one of these forelcosed homes, so it comes as a surprise to me that people are actually mean enough to make a home difficult to live in for the new owners. I get that a lot of folks were screwed by their lenders, but I don't get the meanness. Do they think the bank that screwed them will actually go to the trouble of making sure the next owner isn't and do the repairs?

I don't think I'm standing for peace enough. I need to stand longer and maybe twice a day. My heart is heavy.

daharja said...

It's hard, isn't it? :-(

We moved countries in order to get prepared - we just knew there was NO WAY IN HELL we could ever afford to get ahead in Melbourne, which is where we were living.

It turned out to be the best decision we'd ever made. We love living here in New Zealand.

Some things are, maybe, Providence.

Look on the positives: you're where you want to be, and nothing major has happened by now, so it probably won't. You have an acre in which to grow and learn, and share.

Now get outside and play in that compost! :-)

Chile said...

Rob - yeah, I don't think it was an accident...

jennajon - somehow I think that if he'd had money to hide, he wouldn't have lost the house. But, dreaming won't hurt anything. Maybe when we're digging for the garden, we'll find buried moola!

Kathryn - people in foreclosure have been known to rip out most interior features, probably to sell, as well as to say you-know-what to the bank. There were houses listed on the MLS that were literally gutted and being sold "as is." This one has been easy compared to those!

Daharja - surprising, I guess. 'Course I've never been foreclosed on but when I've sold houses, it's usually in better shape at selling than the entire time I lived in it! Lucky next owner...

We are happy for the most part where we are. Unfortunately, though, it's simply too hot outside for me to go play in the compost. :)

knutty knitter said...

Its the little things that annoy :)

I think it takes about a year before you feel the house has become a home. Sort of like it has to accept you first.

viv in nz

Wendy said...

Ah ... the joys of homeownership!

The house we moved into wasn't a foreclosure, but there were renters living here ... who were never told that the house was being sold, and who were moved out the day we closed. They didn't do any mischief, but because they were living here, and because their stuff was blocking some of the areas our inspector needed to access, but couldn't because of the tenants' things, there were a lot of unexpected surprises once we moved into the house that we weren't prepared for.

We've found a lot of little idiosyncracies with our house - nothing like having the phone wire deliberately snipped, but we did find (or rather the cable guy found) an illegal *second* cable line connecting the back room to the cable box (we believe it was the tenants ;).

I will say that it's neverending, but at the same time, at some point, it will slow down, and you'll have more time to play in the dirt :).

Chile said...

Viv - yeah, that's what Polie says about feeling like we're his "real" parents now. ;-)

Wendy - yikes. I would think the renters could have sued. Were they given 30 days notice? If not, here they would have had grounds to make a lot of trouble!

We've owned houses before so we know the never-ending part. Two of the houses we've had were quite old - for the West Coast - with the associated problems. The other was an earth-bermed house; termite treatment there cost double because they had to do it at surface level and down deeper.

But, there's nothing like having your own place that you can do what you want with; no asking landlords for permission, no investing your money in someone else's equity, etc.!

risa said...

Ours was 1/2 local market, and we're 17 years later still finding out stuff. To give but one example, we had folks over, and Son was walking to the driveway with us us to wave them goodbye -- he passed over a spot on the walkway the rest of us had =just crossed, and DISAPPEARED in a hole in the ground. OMG, OMG, a well!! Get ropes!!!!! no, it was just a shallow septic tank -- he climbed out. Some yahoo among the former owners had dropped PLYWOOD on the tank top and covered it with paving stones. Years later ... seriously, only one example.

Son took it personaly and filled the hole with about twenty wheelbarrow loads of rocks.

Here's hoping you find very few problems after all ...

Wendy said...

Perhaps the tenants could have raised a stink, but that had nothing to do with us or the house and was entirely on the former owners. The tenants could have refused to move, but didn't (thank goodness!), and it's possible that they had it out the former owners, but again, we would have known nothing about it, because we had nothing to do with it.

I agree with you about the last part, though. With all of the little worries we've had with our house, I would much rather have *my own* house than to rent, because, like you said, I can change what I don't like about *my* house, but when I'm renting, I'm kind of stuck with what I have ... and then, there's the possibility of the landlord deciding to sell my home (his house) out from under me, and me being forced to move :). That won't happen with a house that I own. The bank could foreclose, true, but I would have a lot of notice before that happened, and it would only be because I'd failed to pay my bill. The tenants had been paying their rent (as far as we know), and even if the tenants had been notified the house was under contract, the most they would have been given was five weeks, which is the amount of time it took from the day we signed the contract to the day we closed. Five weeks isn't a lot of time.

Sharlene T. said...

So sorry you're finding these little glitches... they will ultimately pass and you'll have it all the way you want... you are very fortunate, indeed, to have someone who can fix things... it's not always the case.

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Chile said...

Risa - wow, that's a doozy! Yeah, I think I'd take it personally, too. I have been warned that there may be a couple of dogs buried on the property but I really hope we don't run across bones while digging for garden. After watching neighbors bury a horse in their front yard, the prospects of remains that we could uncover is rather unsettling.

Oh, we think there are two old septic tanks here, too, but that's based on the small cement slabs - one with a removable small plug. I haven't removed it to check...

Wendy - glad you didn't have too much drama to deal with. Now what are you doing online when you could be remodeling *your* house?! ;-)

Sharlene - I picked good when it came to a life partner! And he got a good cook in exchange. :)

MsAmy said...

We just moved into our fixer-upper after 9 months of renovation. When we purchased it, it was gutted because the previous owner had died before he could fix it. (So had his cat, incidentally, which was discovered after we closed-yuck). What we didn't know as we bought it from out of state, sight unseen with the exception of a few emailed photos, was that the house had been condemned by the county. We had our share of permit issues, county inspectors and structural engineers to deal with but we love our new home. Now if it would only cool down here in Albuquerque, I could play in the dirt, too!

Chile said...

MsAmy - that must have been a shock...and expensive. Glad you were able to fix it up, though, and finally move in.

Yeah, it's waaaay too hot here to play in the dirt. :(

ruralaspirations said...

Wow, it never occurred to me that owners who've been foreclosed on would take out their anger on the house and future owners...that sucks! I hope it doesn't get any worse than butts in the vents.

Chile said...

Rural Aspirations - I wonder if that varies regionally. I thought the news stories I was seeing were from all over the country. People would often remove all the appliances, even built-ins - I expect to sell to get a little cash as well as screw the bank. Sometimes they'd also remove cabinets, water heaters, furnaces, and even tile and carpet!

A few were more malicious and stuffed concrete rubble down the drains so that the house would flood when the new owner started using water. I've heard of people salting yards as well. Foreclosure can make people very, very angry, even if they bought a house they really couldn't afford in the first place. They were promised the American dream and then had it ripped away from them.